Saturday, March 6, 2010

Exposing Dr. Shabbir Ahmed – Part I

Assalam-o-A'leykum wa rehmatullah wa barakatuhu!!
Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds, the Exalted, May Allah have Mercy on Muhammad, his family and his companions.


This is my first Refutation of the false claims by the so called Scholar and Hadith Rejector Dr. Shabbir Ahmed. First have a Look on the Below Video



Here in the Video Dr. Shabbir Ahmed Quoted One Surah of Quran , Surah Fil or Chapter Elephant. Let me Quote first the Surah from his Translation of Quran QXP

Are you not aware of how your Lord dealt with the Army of the Elephant?

Did He not bring their strategy to utter failure? And sent upon them swarms of flying creatures.

Then you showered them with hard stones earmarked with requital. [Sijjeel = Inscribed = Marked out] And made them like a field of grain eaten down to stubble. 

(QXP -105: 1-5)


Please Note the Colored Sections.

Now I can Provide you with more than 10 Translations , including from western Scholars (who are more unbiased according to you) but none of them translated the Verse 4 as Dr. Shabbir Ahmad Translated. Lets see what Other translations are of the verse number 4.

Yusuf Ali : Striking them with stones of baked clay.

Sahi International: Striking them with stones of hard clay,

Literal (Ahmad Ali & Samira) : It throws them with stones from dry and hardened mud .

John Arberry : hurling against them stones of baked clay

Daryabadi : They hurled upon them stones of baked clay;

Muhsin Khan: Striking them with stones of Sijjil.

Pickthall : Which pelted them with stones of baked clay,

Shakir : Casting against them stones of baked clay,

Ali Unal : Shooting them with bullet-like stones of baked clay (an emblem of the punishment due to them),

 

Now if you read the verse 4 in continuation with Verse 3 in all the above translations it will only mean that It was the birds who hurled the people of Elephants with stones rather than the Meccans itself as claimed by Dr. Shabbir Ahmad. Now even if we agree with Dr. Shabbir for the sake of Argument that it was Meccan who pelted the people of Elephants with stones, then please analyze this ,

Lets read what Dr. Shabbir wrote in the Introduction of the Surah Al-Fil

"As Abrahah’s army approached Makkah, the Makkans who had been alerted by some travelers beforehand, saw flocks of birds that normally fly over caravans in search for food. The Makkans mounted the hills around and threw stones on the troops. The elephants, and in turn, other rides panicked and trampled the soldiers."

Read the Bold and underlined part clearly, what Dr. Shabbir claims, according to him the birds normally fly over caravans in search of food. (This is also in the video). Mark these words carefully. "Normally" . hmmmm.... so if Flocks of Bird normally fly over the Caravans for the search of Food. Then Why Allah taking the Credit on himself in the First Verse of Surah Fil.

Are you not aware of how your Lord dealt with the Army of the Elephant? (QXP : 105:1)

So According to Mr. Shabbir Ahmed, flying of birds over Caravans is a Normal Phenomena and the stones were pelted by Meccans and Not by Birds (by the commandment of Allah). My Question is why Allah(S.W.T) narrating this story in the Quran, if he had no role in it ??? Why he said "how your lord dealt with the Army of Elephant"  If It was a normal phenomena according to Dr. Shabbir !! There millions of Normal things that would had happened in those days, then why Allah chosed to narrate a story which is as normal as other stories. Dr. Shabbir is doing nothing but playing with the verses of Quran according to his whims and desires, let him know what Allah say about such people who play with the word of Allah.

So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. (Al-Baqrah:79)

Now come to the Interesting foot note written by Dr. Shabbir Ahmed and as explained in the above Video too.

He wrote " An interesting footnote here might be appropriate. Three Arabs had guided Abrahah on his way to Makkah through the desert. The pre-Islamic Makkans humiliated the traitors and made out three statutes of them in today’s plains of Mina outside Makkah. Then they used to stone those statues every year at the time of Pilgrimage. This ritual was ‘Islamized’ by Muslim historians naming them as three places where the ‘Satan’ tried to prompt Prophet Abraham to defy God’s Command to ’sacrifice’ his son. And so, to this day during Pilgrimage, Muslims stone the three pillars calling them the Great, the Medium, and the Small Satan!"

First of All, Dr. Shabbir Ahmed Quotes very fluently from the Historical sources to support his argument which have no authenticity at all, Even Tabari in his history wrote a Disclaimer , that he narrated as it was narrated to him and he had not verified anything based on the principles of Hadith Science and Authentication process, So the thing to note is that, Dr. Shabbir Deny all the Ahadith which are autheticated by a large number of Scholars but he accept all the obscure history with no hesitation at all. or he create his history from himself. No Reference nothing, at all

Secondly he claims that Its a biblical story that Ishmael (in fact it was Isaac in the Bible) was replaced by a ram when Abraham(A.S) tried to sacrifice his only son Ishmael. But Quranically it was only a greater sacrifice, (As written in verse (As-Saaffaat: 107)) which is nothing but Abraham(A.S) leaving the seat of Chief Priest in the Temple of Namrood.

How stupid and ridiculous, even a child can debunk this stupid claim, And even a first time reader of the Quran can deduce from the Quran that, Incident of Abraham(A.S) leaving his father was an incident before the birth of Ishmael(A.S), because he was born to him in his very old age. Then how come a great sacrifice can occur before the alleged intended slaughtering of Ishmael(A.S) ??? I Ask How ???

Read As-Saaffaat Chapter 37 Verse 101-107 & (At-Tawba: 114),  (Az-Zukhruf: 26), (Maryam: 46), (Al-An'aam: 74), (Al-Mumtahana: 4)

Also the so called self styled scholar Dr. Shabbir Claimed that the age old practice of Animal Sacrifice has no Quranic basis and is added by later Imams, and it was nothing but a pre-islamic practice. And we are slaughtering the innocent animals in vain from past 14 to 13 Centuries. What should I say but to laugh at the Quranic Knowledge of Dr. Shabbir. If he had read the Quran carefully he must had not said it.

Allah says in Quran

For you the animals marked for sacrifice are benefits for a specified term; then their place of sacrifice is at the ancient House. (Al-Hajj: 33)

See how Dr. Shabbir played with this Verse in his own translation but even then he cannot fully disguise what is written in Arabic

"(Procuring livestock during Hajj is a symbol of devotion to God.) In them are benefits for you for a term appointed. (They carry you and your loads.) In the end, their place for sacrifice or donation is near the Ancient House. [The plains of Mina, and not Ka’bah] (QXP)

So much of inserting his own explanations in the Brackets, but he actually messed up all. read the above verse carefully , I can again quote numbers of translations but in no translation you can find such a stupid interpretation. Read specially the word sacrifice which he tried to normalize with another interpolation ‘Donation’.  May Allah curse the liar. who play with the word of Allah. I can challenge that such a translation is alien even in the Russian or Zulu translation of Quran.

But the Sacrifice of Animals is also their in Surah Al- Baqrah

And complete the Hajj and 'umrah for Allah . But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity or sacrifice. And when you are secure, then whoever performs 'umrah [during the Hajj months] followed by Hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during Hajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty. (Al-Baqara: 196)

Ha!! Now I wonder how Dr. Shabbir had done his hajj ritual (if he had done so) in his days spent in Saudi Arabia.

See how he played shamelessly with the word of Allah.

"(Peace cannot defend itself. Mankind have to guard it.) Therefore, observe the Hajj and ‘Umrah Convention for God. If you are stranded, send in gifts that the congregation would utilize. Do not consider that by doing so you have relieved yourself of duty. Be with them at heart until the gifts have reached their destination. If someone is sick or has other compelling burdens denying him sending any contribution, then Abstinence for a few days at convenience, or an act of charity or fulfilling someone’s need shall be in order. If a person is present at the Convention but cannot afford to contribute, he should exercise Abstinence for a total number of ten days, three days there and seven days after coming home. This is for him whose folk do not live in the vicinity of the Convention. Be mindful of God, remembering the noble objective. And know that God (His Law) is Strict in grasping. " (QXP)

And even if you paste these verses in Google translation it will translate it as Sacrifice and sacrificial Animals

This is what I obtained from google translation which is filled with Errors because its a Machine translation rather than the Human one.

"And completed the Hajj and Umrah Ohsrtm God the sacrifice of what Astisr not milling your heads until the sacrifice was replaced by one of you is ill or harmed by the head of the person in fasting, charity or rituals, if you believe it is the enjoyment of Umrah pilgrimage to what it is, the sacrificial animal Astisr not find a fast for three days during Hajj and seven if you go the full ten that those who were not family Attendees Sacred Mosque, and fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in punishment"

(google machine translation)

But please not, it translated Sacrificial Animals as Sacrificial Animal only.

May Allah save us from the Deception of Liars and those who ascribe false words to Allah according to their own whims and desires.

Ameen

11 comments:

  1. Sir,
    Thank you for taking your time to write this interesting article. I read and re-read it. I didn't know about Dr Ahmed Sabbir until I read your article and find out who that man was. Sincerely speaking, your arguments are so weak, very weak to a point of insulting human intelligence. I was just puffed off when you started getting your definition from Google. This is childish kind of research. Dr Shabbir translation makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks a million for making me discover his blog. QXP is the recommended quran translation. It is really what I needed. It is free from nonsense. It is the best quran english translation today. Most of the translations you are quoting are loaded with nonsense traditions such as birds stoning people, throwing prophet Ibrahim into the fire, nonsense magic competition between Prophet Musa and Pharaoh men, etc. They are all translated based on bukhari and his friends religion under the name of sunna and hadiths. The pure quran is free of such nonsensical stuff. If I were you, I could have just deleted this article. It is portraying your defective intelligence. Please, free your mind and get guided.

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    1. Bele sorry please know Islam and Qumran from true scholar not half brain fake self taught newage Muslim freak scholar

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    2. I do not know Arabic and had been reading translation and other expalination of Quoran which never appealed to my mind as those stories were not standing to logic and science. Then I thought Islam is another religion like other based on fairy tales. I started looking some thing for reality. I see the universe and laws of nature and these laws governing the universe. About 17 years ago i read article written by Dr. Shabbir in a local newspaper which opened my mind. How Mulsims have been deviatedfor the true path of Islam Deen and thrown the whole Ummah into Mazhab performing rituals, false hadees, fabricated stories, and false translation. What ever Dr. Shabbir Ahmed has written are based on logic and science. rest is all rubbish. I am proud to be the follower of Islam Deen of Quoran not follower of man made Islam Mazhab.
      May Allah (SWT) shower his blessing on Dr. Shabir to get us out of clutches of Mazhab.

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    3. People think that which something old is more reliable. New light they reject.

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  2. I think shabbir is the one who talks nonsense.
    I don't think he is a proper thinker. He is a Muslim who sees islam as a burden and wants to ease his load of worship.
    He is one of these newage Muslims fitna freaks.
    Internet is a good source of research to know these self proclaimed scholar idiots.
    Well done for speaking out.

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    1. Allah says we dont want to put burden on you.

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    2. We are fairy tales lover. Mystery worshippers.

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  3. Aslaam alaikum brothers, i have read the translation of the quran of surah fil. And i agree that dr shabbir has made of mockery of the translation of this surah. His arabic is obviousley not fluent and just because he lived in saudi arabia doesnt mean that his arabic became fluent and that he is able to translate this surah correctly.
    I agree with the brother that " why Allah(S.W.T) narrating this story in the Quran, if he had no role in it"
    I feel horrible for those muslims that are following this so called doctor. please stay away.

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    1. Two Times Kaab was demolished during Khilafat Period. No Ababeel came. Iraq was destroyed no ababeel came. Three Shaitan Stoned Simply worshiping in opposite ways to idols. Stupid Qaum

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  4. This is one of the most ridiculous attempts to confuse ‘piece’ of nonsense I have ever read. I have read Dr Shabbir, pathetic Madoodi tareefs and many other Shia Sunni scholars and Christian books and techniques utilised to confuse a number of Muslims. First off, I know of the books and know that Dr.Shabbir is not the rejecter of all hadith and has a book on hadith the does NOT contradict the Quran but not the word of god (or that something else that came with the Quran rubbish the missionaries love, as it makes their job easy and scholars like Dr Shabbir are really making their job difficult). So you have got the simplest fact wrong here and it is really no surprise.
    This brings me to this article as a fraud. Why? For someone who is quite learned with the techniques of Arab/Christians etc., some pose as Muslims to try bash real scholars, the first unreal uneducated thing here is the Tasreef meaning is mentioned and googled and not a proper Arabic Lexicon taking the Quraysh, qur’anic shades of meaning that can change due to the context of a verse.
    Now, if you were really genuinely fighting for hadith as you are trying to make out with your fake website and comrades, you would not have blundered so easily right from the start. If Tasreef does not mean what it does to Dr Shabbir then Tasreef does not mean the same to orthodox Muslims who consider debasing hadiths as that something else that came with the Quran or Sunnah and base their tasreef on these according to your googled take on what Tasreef means – a big contradiction. You have tripped up and exposed yourself from the outset because you trying to claim that Dr.Shabbir is a hadith rejecter but then the very same people who uphold such hadith use the same meaning of tasreef so it is quite stupid of you to try fool learned people with the intent to confuse with such nonsense what follows on from that statement. So in a nutshell the purpose of this website is to try inadvertadly to get Muslims to continue to believe such horrible hadith against prophet Mohammad such as paedophile hadith (because you know hadith which debase the prophet and contradict the Quran are in you favour so you have concocted this rubbish to fool Muslims and keep them tied to such corrupt hadith and debase a real scholar who is waking people up orthodox Muslims and Christian who are converting to Islam in quite large numbers on a world wide scale. You have been exposed so easily my friends! Your uneducated take on verses is laughable as it exacerbates your absurdities and intent to bash a real scholar, and there are other great intellectual qur’anic scholars of the past who even mingled with Einstein such as the well educated at Cambridge, Al - Mashriqi from a Scientific view of the Quran, so keep trying you fools and get educated and don’t just pick verses here and there and use hadithic rubbish because real learned people can easily see through what your techniques, behaviours and motives really are.

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  5. Exactly Right you are saying. People with idolatory habits are unable to leave their old habits. Mullaiyat can only stand with the help of ahadees and mystery.

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